Satria R3 - Known Problems
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Not unlike other cars, the Satria R3, although substantially a better quality product than its original donor car will ever be, is not problem-free. Whether manufacturing defects (substandard parts and components) and improper fitting, the Satria R3 does suffer from quirks and niggling problems, usually inherited from its Proton bloodline. Here is a list of known and reported problems, and what to do if you encounter them.
Powertrain
Spark plug and cables
A few SR3 owners have experienced quirky behaviour with the car. Jerkiness at low gears and feelings of sluggishness can sometimes be due to faulty plug cables or spark plugs. Head down to the nearest Proton Edar Service Center to get them replaced under warranty. R3 engineers have advised to stick to stock plugs to ensure optimum performance. 3rd party plugs have been found to actually reduce performance (anything from 0.5hp - 1.0hp).
Lack of power
Not a real issue, but you need to re-adjust your cam pulley (or pulleys, if you’re on Stage-2) from time to time (or upgrade to Stage-2 entirely). Simply bring the car back to Proton Motorsports for a re-tune (free the first time). The differences can be quite adverse before and after bringing the car back to spec. Proven on dyno to be sometimes up to 5whp difference.
Engine stalls upon startup
You crank the engine and it turns. Suddenly it sputters and dies. This is a known Siemens VDO problem and has been encountered on at least 2 Satria R3 and several post 2001 GTi’s. Some say this is caused by the ultra-sensitive MAP sensor getting dirty. No known solution, other than cleaning the MAP sensor (but never directly shoot an airgun at it). Some owners have resorted to changing the entire system from Siemens VDO to MMC (either ECU 5377 or 0468). The latter solution is costly and can set you back from between RM1500 to RM2500 depending on availability of parts and workmanship. Additionally, if you’re unlucky it may open up a whole new host of problems since you’re using >4 year old parts. And you’ll void your warranty.
Drivetrain
Squeaky brakes
Your Satria R3 is equipped with the high-friction compound based Mintex 1144. They will squeal loudly upon braking, especially when the pads are warmed up and braking to a stop. This is normal. However, Proton Motorsports has a special gel which is applied to the back of the pads to absorb heat and vibrations. This gel will greatly reduce the brake squeal. Contact your nearest Proton Motorsports representative for more information.
There is a special bedding in process highlighted in the R3 user manual which would reduce brake squeal.
Squeaky dampers
A very isolated case where rear damper(s) was bottoming out and squeaky over undulations. Get them replaced at R3.
Clutch Slip
So far, there has been one reported case of a car with a badly slipping clutch. Speeds of even 60km/h were not possible. This is due to the fact that Satria R3’s leave the factory with a very high clutch. In rare cases, the clutch is adjusted so high that the spring mechanism cannot provide enough force to lock the clutch. This in turn causes the clutch to always have
Bodywork/Exterior
Misaligned rear bumper
The sexy rear bumper of the SR3 may be misaligned due to improper fitting. You can get this rectified at PESC or R3.
Interior
Dashboard/VDO
The background of the fuel/temperature gauge tends to bleed the amber light when the lights are on. This is due to a painter’s defect. Simply bring the car back to Proton Edar for a warranty claim to rectify this.
The vendor of the Siemens VDO unit has yet to solve the problem of the defect to-date. Warranty replacement was prompt in some cases, but part is still defective.
Door rubber lining/seals
Heavy rains and puddles may cause water to leak into the cabin as experienced by one or two SR3 owners. Get the seals and lining checked/replaced at PESC. This also applies to the seals on the front windscreen.
Power Windows
Isolated cases of power window defects/failure. Minor cases solved with simple silicon spray at PESC.
The dreaded right speaker
Rattles under moderate to high volume. Problem sometimes caused by a loose rubber gasket not fixed properly to the speaker. Solved with application of super-glue to seal/affix the loose part to the speaker permanently.
The squeaks, rattles and hums
Minute buzzes on the dashboard, squeaks from the rear of cabin. Usually due to fitment. Can be rectified at PESC or R3.
Loose Pocket Compartment (flap below the alarm LED, beside the ignition keyslot)
A common problem in post ‘97 Protons. Tends to pop open under strong vibrations or G-Forces during acceleration. No known solution from Proton’s best design engineers or QC managers. Solved by owners with either a magnet and glue, or velcro.
One suggestion would be to remove the compartment altogether. Has no purpose whatsoever! (Verne)
Loose Gearshift Gaiter
On some cars, the gearstick gaiter (leather wrapping the gearstick) tends to pop off the rubber ring when the gearstick is pulled to the far left or right (e.g. shifting to 1st or 5th gear). This is due to a piece of plastic which is impeding the movement of the gaiter. The plastic base needs to be removed and the white plastic holding the gaiter needs to be cut down to a shorter length.
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August 29th, 2005 at 11:12 am
hmm.. nobody with exhaust problems yet?
August 29th, 2005 at 12:15 pm
hey lude,
did u encounter exhaust problems? let me know what you experienced so I can add to the post.
another SR3 owner had a leaky exhaust which caused erratic behaviour (jumpy RPM, loss of power) but was solved after a visit to PESC.
August 29th, 2005 at 1:52 pm
kinda long to put it here.. its on zth by the way..
August 29th, 2005 at 8:23 pm
hey guys…
Besides all that’s been stated on the blog, my car’s clutch suddenly died on me the other day.The clutch kept slipping n slipping until my car’s top speed was 30km/h!It’s like as if the gears won’t “tangkap” and so me,from Penang,had to bring my car to the nearest Proton Edar Service centre.Once I got there they have the balls to tell me that “oh abang kita tak repair R3 kat sini.abang kena pergi Juru service centre”. I mean the guy probably didn’t have any brains in him coz I can’t bloody drive my car with a top speed of 30km/h all the way to Juru which is something like 40km,having to pass the Penang Bridge n stuff like that.So he response was..”abang tow abang punye kereta”. Talk about customer service…Pissed me of badly.
But then…the clutch problem…well after that I drove to my mechanic shop and ask him to check for me and suddenly,without doing anything to the car,the clutch seems to be ok.After 3 weeks and it seems the problems gone.Now someone pls explain to me how it could happen?and why it suddenly disappears?
August 30th, 2005 at 7:46 am
“oh abang kita tak repair R3 kat sini.abang kena pergi Juru service centre”
Is the SC who said that a proper PE service center?
August 30th, 2005 at 9:55 am
prozac, it isn’t the first time this has happened. They are either too lazy or not willing to risk screwing up something alien to them (not in database!). The weird thing is, it’s a SGTi basically.
Go figure.
August 30th, 2005 at 10:06 am
nwar,
It’s strange that your mech didn’t tell you the problem nor the solution. I figure it could be a lose cable. Suspected a clutch pump failure or leak initially.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:08 pm
prozac,
yea it is a proper service centre.And that’s not all…he checked my car and he said i had burned my clutch!I’m like how can that be coz I don’t know nuts on drifting and I do sometimes speed(who doesn’t coz our cars are full of potential!eheheh) but I doubt it that it’s bcoz of that.
And also I wanted to ask u guys….Proton don’t warrant our clutch?it’s not under warranty was wat that guy told me.So i asked him how much is a GTi clucth coz it’s the same to my knowledge and he says “oh tak..GTi tak sama la”
I don’t understand why Proton hire these guys…they don’t know nuts about the cars.
August 30th, 2005 at 7:10 pm
vern,
Well my mechanic didn’t really do anything except for adjusting my clutch lower coz as well all know R3 LEV’s clucth is pretty high.After that he just took it for a spin…voila!Magic hands i guess…beats me!
August 30th, 2005 at 11:17 pm
nwar,
My guess would be that the clutch was adjusted too high at the factory, until it didn’t have enough contact and kept slipping. Anyway, good to hear your problems are over.
If I were you, I’d go look for another PE service center. Most often, an Authorized PE center will do nicely. Especially those which are professional and have lots of jacks and bays. We have one here in Damansara Jaya. Very professional, knowledgeable and fast. They’re not affiliated to PE in any way other than being an authorized SC. I’m sure you can find one like that up north.
September 26th, 2005 at 12:16 am
hey guys,
anyone encounter probs with their cf spark plug cover yet?actually as i was inspecting the engine today i had discovered that 4 out of 6 nuts bolting the cf cover onto the engine were not in its places.so the cf cover itself is not holding very strong in its place with only 2 nuts holding it down.by the way the nuts were in its place the last time i checked.
Actually i do drive my SR3 with a little too much enthuasiasm, know what i mean rite? well i bet all of u guys do too.hehe.. but i dont think the nuts would just flew off under heavy pressure on the engine.hmm….
Well,i m hoping the other 2 nuts left wont flew away too because if it does the cf cover would also flew away along with the tagging of the special limited edition serial number.that wond be any good then, rite guys?
So guys, any suggestions or any locations that would sorted out this problem that i m having?thanxx guys!
ps by the way the car number i owned is #129 kay.
Thanks..Ciowwww